I agree that offering the Linden Home to existing Premium customers is nonsensical; I myself did not elevate myself to Premium status until I had decided on a slice of land -- and only then because I had to do so in order to purchase the damn section!
Wow thank you for posting this. I have been looking to start playing with particles in scripts a bit more and this gave me the inspiration to do so.
Wow thank you for posting this. I have been looking to start playing with particles in scripts a bit more and this gave me the inspiration to do so.
Inordinately kind of you, and a Happy New Year to you yourself.
I have just realised what it needs at the top, though - a star. Clearly.
I find your scripting educational, stimulating, and in this case Wonderful. The movement of the particle generating prim is indeed a simple yet cunning creative tool. In fact, to misquote Edmund Blackadder - it is as cunning as a fox that has just been made professor of cunningness at Oxford University.
Merry Festive Season Ms Malaprop.
Well said, Miss Malaprop.
I think people should be given the choice between a Linden Home (consume, consume, consume) or first land (create, create, create). But who am I to tell the Linden family? I do not even happen to be a premium member, a paying customer yet so my word seems to mean very little. But I want to be able to create my own home, store or other place and not be forced into a shoebox looking exactly the same as the one next door.
Are creativity and individuality considered bad now, Ladies and Gentlemen?
To be completely honest, I have an existance in another place where I had been given a home from the beginning. But even there I could (for a small fee within the realm of said world, I have to admit) exchange it for land, free to decide myself what my homestead should look like (restrictions may and do apply).
I apologize for any mistreatment I have given the english language in advance as it is not my native language.
What is the point of offering Linden Homes to existing Premiums?
It looks to me they will give this opportunity to all existing Premiums. The point is to prevent existing Premium Accounts from crying "we want that too, we're entitled to it, LL hates us, we won't renew".
LL are losing Premium users - first way to stop it is: keep existing Premiums. So, please them.
The number of people who have signed up for Premium but who have no idea where to live is zero to the nearest significant figure. Who would do that? Why on earth would somebody pay money for a premium account now without already knowing, at least vaguely, what they want to do in Second Life?
I don't agree. Personally I know at least a couple of users that signed up for Premium while only vaguely know what Second Life is about.
I think there definitively is a market (if small) for users without money worries that just want a smooth experience, and are willing to pay some bucks to avoid problems as "who should I trust?" or "what and where should I buy?"
A far better idea would be to offer it to a randomly selected number of new residents who were not Premium.
That would be cool for those users, but I don't see how could it help, since not-paying users are not going to get free land + free house.
Stimulating and thoughtful post, Ordinal, thanks!
Excellent summarization. I agree with most of it, even though Jack Linden told a number of bald-faced lies during the openspace moneygrab...
This particular moneygrab is nothing more than trying to reduce expenses while maintaining the revenue stream. The fact that it's being presented so clumsily should surprise no one. It's LL's trademark.
They really are just a bunch of kids who put on a show in a barn and ended up with a broadway hit...
I do think you give the LL policy makers a little too much credit - in regards to their honesty - I personally support and defend the underpaid rank-and-file Lindens that work very hard to keep the world going. That kind of dedication is rare in this world, especially since they're just as mistreated by management as we are. It's too bad that LL just can't say "we aren't making enough with this product, we have to streamline it's use and change fees".
It's not that they lie so much that galls me, it's the insulting way that they do it...
Grr ... yet another typo due to my spellchecker that I can not fix. The phrase 'bought picked up' should be 'bot picked up'.
I will make you a deal ... I will tell you what the SL land prices will be in a few months and you can tell me what RL stocks will do best in the next few months, okay? :) Believe me, you have the easier part of the foretelling: land prices fluctuate wildly, do not follow a set pattern of doing so, and can vary hugely from one seller to another within the same sim.
Right now people are literally giving land away. To give you an idea: I sold some land that a bought picked up for 7.5 lindens/m2 (which ppl regarded as a steal for that area). Later I re-bought it and eventually resold a piece of it before moving (both myself and the person I 'bought' from gave away most of our land to friends/neighbors). A bot did not buy my land until it went below 1 linden/m2. A of of land people just are abandoning now because they do not want to gamble a month's tier fee on someone *maybe* buying it for a pittance.
You have covered most of the key points I have been thinking about on this matter. What has happened here is no surprise, save that this was not nearly so drastic or user-alienating as I would have expected.
For myself, the irksome thing is the lack of vendor/customer relationship with The Lab. Whether it has been gambling, Open Spaces, or this, the pattern has been to blame a large percentage of the user base for the shortfalls of another group of users as a justification for their actions.
Other businesses manage to maintain the broad goodwill of their users even when rolling out unpopular and poorly researched business plans. Somehow, Linden Labs misses the mark on this far too often.
As a new builder, but fairly strange old person who only recently bought Mainland parcels for the first time, I'm in the "make it easier for new residents to find and manage a home" camp, but I'm not sure I care for this new development (smile) with Linden Homes. Perhaps I would have qualified for one even as an oldbie who'd never bought a parcel in more than 2 years, but I don't think I would have gone through the recent experiences I had when "build flu" and "land fever" finally struck.
I was inspired by the news that a family member is very seriously ill; that may not seem very inspiring, but in my mind it was coupled with the thought of other people I have lost, and also with items I associate with them that have either been lost or passed on to other people over the years. While waiting for news and results, my rudimentary attempts to make things like pots and bowls and silly drinks distracted me from worrying. Then one day a few weeks ago, I realized that I could try to replicate some of those things I've lost, and display or use them in a virtual home that represented a childhood home I haven't seen since I was a toddler.
I'm not sure that I would have made the Great Leap from consumer to creator if I'd been living in a generic home on a generic lot, because part of the process was the search for a parcel with the right possibilities for the price. It was not easy, and I lost a lot of sleep designing and re-designing my home in my head. If I simply had to accept something decent-ish for very little outlay, I don't think I would have gone through the process of conversion even now.
Still, I think it's a good idea for newer residents to have an easier entry into the lower reaches of the landed gentry - just not in such a spoon-fed fashion.
And I still might be in the market for more land... so I am wondering what will happen to land prices in the next few months.
No, I do not think there is any contradiction in the position I have taken. Firstly, Linden Homes are rather by definition restrictive and inflexible compared to standard rental or purchased property; that is just stating facts. I do not believe that I said that they were _undesirable_ though. I am sure that many new residents will be perfectly happy with them for a period (assuming that they are properly designed and the regions are set up nicely and so on) as they are now in other communities providing a basic house in a themed community.
I suspect that people who have been introduced to Second Life via an initial system of heavily managed land would be more likely to then assume that that is what Second Life is about, certainly, and look for more of that but with more space and more prims or a different theme or whatever it is they wish to do. At the very least they will not be _less_ likely to, I think everyone would agree. This is good for those providing that sort of experience, who are almost all on islands (mainland being much harder to theme or manage), but bad for those selling or renting more open-ended properties.
I would also say that this scheme must surely constitute competition to people already selling or renting out parcels to new residents, just like any subsidised and Linden-advertised system aimed at new residents would. The issue of whether this is _unfair_ or overall beneficial to the community I am not quite sure about, but I were in that business I would likely be rather cross about it all.
Those are not my objections here though - perhaps the second, a little. My objection is that the project seems designed, consciously or unconsciously, to instill from the start a perception of Second Life as a place in which one consumes rather than creates. From the start the message will be that one comes in to experience a structured environment created by somebody else. And apart from my own bias towards encouraging people to create for themselves, the thing is that it just will not work anyway. Second Life is _not_ a structured experience as other virtual worlds often are, and trying to pretend that it is simply delays the point where people say "so what do I do now?"
I do not understand how you (and others) can make all of the following claims simultaneously:
Do these not contradict each other?
If people find Linden Homes so restrictive, surely that would make them want to move somewhere less restrictive, such as owning or renting land on the mainland or an estate?
Granted, some might wrongly assume that everywhere else is just as restrictive as Linden Homes, but even that provides land rentals and estate owners a powerful marketing hook: "Have more freedom in SL, rent from us!"
If point #1 were reversed, so that you were arguing that Linden Homes will be popular because most people would prefer a managed experience, then at least it would be consistent with point #2. But even then, surely land rentals and estate owners could offer a better managed experience than Linden Lab.
Grr .... somehow "My SL homes" got moved a sentence back and no way to edit my post!
Unless you RP, how often do most people sleep and such in SL? My SL homes Why would anyone want a house anyway?
A huge open area (w small enclosed space for changing) with transparent walls, a grass ceiling, and no floor. Oh, and trees and rocks on the roof. Many people assumed it was a park until they stepped on the skylight and saw a tree below them.
A treehouse leading to a cavern. Eventually I walled in the area below the treehouse with semi-transparent walls but it was more an a playground for architectural ideas than anything else. Hidden doors and such. I think I spent more time in the underground tunnels than in the house part.
Yet another treehouse. As opposed to the last, I plan on keeping it that way and spend most of my time tweaking the area's look next door.
Another thing that really bothers me: it's another step towards disneyfication of SL. Before, with first land, people could put up whatever they fancied - and yes, that meant an ugly purple monstrosity, too (I had a neighbour in my first land plot in Noonkkot that even named his home "purple monstrosity" and damn, it was!). Or flying homes. Castles. Just some trees. Or crazy prims in crazy colors. Nobody was tied to a theme, nobody was tied to RL-copying.
But Linden Homes are just that - houses on land. It's as much tied to RL concepts as possible. That's crazy. It's a world where you can fly and teleport and you are encouraged to stick to simple ground based homes with windows and doors? Why?
It's a brilliant idea on Linden Lab's side. Reduce clutter and make money in the process. :)
huge database its neva failed me so far :)
Since I have written a longer piece now, I would direct any would-be commenters to that: Mercantile Insanity, Longer Version
I could not agree more. I am one of those merchants that do pretty well on Xstreet. I limit my offerings and my freebies naturally, (mostly because it is such a pain in the backside to list it.) The fees in question will not impact my financial ability to list current or future products. They will, however, severely hamper my will to do so.
I am incensed. The smoke and mirrors, condescending, techno double talk is an insult to my intelligence. In a world where multi-billion search algorithms are conducted daily, in a thousand different ways, I find it mystifying that we are expected to believe that the preferred solution is to cut content.
As soon as I can copy and paste my way out of it I am done with Xstreeet. (Within the next day or two.) I have moved all my freebies and lower cost items to my in-world store.
I also agree that the alternatives choices are not stellar. I have chosen one to support for the time being, mostly as a place to direct customers who like to purchase merchandise on-line.
It isn't that I have read somewhere that Second Life is a Democracy.
Indeed it sometimes amuses me that many people believe they have any rights at all in Second Life. A quick glance at the TOS will end such delusions of equality.
I was merely pointing out that very fact, despite the Linden's claims of listening to blogs and such.
There really isn't a lot of point in complaining, we will either "rub the lotion on our skin" or "get the hose".
The only real way to make a corporation sit up and take notice is to stop consuming.
You suggest waiting to see for six months.
I suggest ceasing consumption for that time.
Take this next six months to re-evaluate how second life fits into ones life,
and if any corporate entity really should have such influence on any individual, virtual or otherwise.
( oh and by the way, those of us who might have supported the use of Second Life for Business "Enterprise" might be a little less enthused at the next board meeting )
I frankly cannot see where you read that Second Life is supposed to be a "democracy".
Second Life is an online service, provided by a corporation.
I'm not disappointed because I have different expectations than most people in this discussion. And trust me, I'm all for freebies and sharing, they bring value to SL experience.
There actually was a lot of free crap on Xstreet SL.
I think one should wait 6 months at least and see results before using the 'fiasco' word.