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	<title>Comments on: Ordinal Rambles on the Subject of Land and Property</title>
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		<title>By: Daman Tenk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daman Tenk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the past I've only encountered good landladies luckily ^^

But I'd personally advise against buying any land whatsoever in SL. Renting, no problem ... I never paid more than two weeks in advance anyway ... even IF my landlady would be a crook, she'd never steal more from me than those 2 weeks (and 2 weeks was the exception for when I expected to be busy in real life a lot, usually I'd pay 1 week in advance only).

"Buying" land from a landbaron is just asking for problems though. I've seen too many friends get fucked like that.

On the other hand, mainland is plain ugly, full of idiots, random trespassers, and so on. Some people may like that, I don't. Just give me the quiet and calmth of a nice gated community with likeminded people ^^

Currently my inworld girl owns mainland parcel ... only way it's liveable is by surrounding it completely with megaprims with a calm forest backdrop, and working with an access list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the past I&#8217;ve only encountered good landladies luckily ^^</p>
<p>But I&#8217;d personally advise against buying any land whatsoever in SL. Renting, no problem &#8230; I never paid more than two weeks in advance anyway &#8230; even IF my landlady would be a crook, she&#8217;d never steal more from me than those 2 weeks (and 2 weeks was the exception for when I expected to be busy in real life a lot, usually I&#8217;d pay 1 week in advance only).</p>
<p>&#8220;Buying&#8221; land from a landbaron is just asking for problems though. I&#8217;ve seen too many friends get fucked like that.</p>
<p>On the other hand, mainland is plain ugly, full of idiots, random trespassers, and so on. Some people may like that, I don&#8217;t. Just give me the quiet and calmth of a nice gated community with likeminded people ^^</p>
<p>Currently my inworld girl owns mainland parcel &#8230; only way it&#8217;s liveable is by surrounding it completely with megaprims with a calm forest backdrop, and working with an access list.</p>
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		<title>By: Erbo Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erbo Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've certainly been fortunate to deal with several reputable "landlords" both in the past and on an ongoing basis.  Mr. Cassidy, as Mr. Antfarm describes above, is a fair individual to my knowledge.  I've also dealt favorably in the past with Mr. Steve Mahfouz, and continue to do ongoing business with Mr. Sirux Mahoney of the Fantasyland group, to our mutual benefit.

That said, the latest club venture of which I am a part is headquartered on Mainland land, which rather simplifies a number of issues.  There is an abundance of Mainland land out there now, so, if one is interested in those sorts of pursuits, one should easily be able to find a suitable parcel.  It's also flexible enough that my daughter and business partner was able to subdivide the parcel to create a rental home--and then to move her primary residence there when circumstances dictated that she do so.  There is something to be said for the ability to do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve certainly been fortunate to deal with several reputable &#8220;landlords&#8221; both in the past and on an ongoing basis.  Mr. Cassidy, as Mr. Antfarm describes above, is a fair individual to my knowledge.  I&#8217;ve also dealt favorably in the past with Mr. Steve Mahfouz, and continue to do ongoing business with Mr. Sirux Mahoney of the Fantasyland group, to our mutual benefit.</p>
<p>That said, the latest club venture of which I am a part is headquartered on Mainland land, which rather simplifies a number of issues.  There is an abundance of Mainland land out there now, so, if one is interested in those sorts of pursuits, one should easily be able to find a suitable parcel.  It&#8217;s also flexible enough that my daughter and business partner was able to subdivide the parcel to create a rental home&#8211;and then to move her primary residence there when circumstances dictated that she do so.  There is something to be said for the ability to do that.</p>
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		<title>By: hexx Triskaidekaphobia</title>
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		<dc:creator>hexx Triskaidekaphobia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, on the rare occasion that someone asks my opinion on these matters, I always advise against 'buying' land on private islands. Firstly because of the whimsical nature of many island owners, but also because there are so few occasional passers-by on an island. The latter is a personal folly of mine, I admit: I enjoy meeting people and am quite fond of surprises.

I reside on the mainland. Surrounded by ugly builds, put there by people that actually believe they can make money by renting out shops and appartments, or opening up a dance hall. But since my parcel is big enough not to see them if I do not wish to do so, I can merrily tinker with building things and organise the occasional concert on a stage in the lagoon.

And, last but not least, indulge in my pyromania by blowing up fireworks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, on the rare occasion that someone asks my opinion on these matters, I always advise against &#8216;buying&#8217; land on private islands. Firstly because of the whimsical nature of many island owners, but also because there are so few occasional passers-by on an island. The latter is a personal folly of mine, I admit: I enjoy meeting people and am quite fond of surprises.</p>
<p>I reside on the mainland. Surrounded by ugly builds, put there by people that actually believe they can make money by renting out shops and appartments, or opening up a dance hall. But since my parcel is big enough not to see them if I do not wish to do so, I can merrily tinker with building things and organise the occasional concert on a stage in the lagoon.</p>
<p>And, last but not least, indulge in my pyromania by blowing up fireworks.</p>
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		<title>By: HeadBurro Antfarm</title>
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		<dc:creator>HeadBurro Antfarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've always liked the idea of mainland... it seems so much more secure in a curious way. But when I bought (no, rented - you are quite right in your description of it being sub-let) land I couldn't afford mainland and the idea of more 'controlled' neighbours seemed appealing. 

My landlord, one Doeko Cassidy, is a lovely chap and I'm not sure I would have been able to terraform my wee island quite so harshly as I have with another. Not every landlord answers a 'help, this XYZ thing is not working on my land' call from a renter and beam in only to find the lovely little desert island he left suddenly transformed into a steamy jungle complete with shipwreck, tropical storm and varied wandering critters without saying a word. 

Maybe I'll look into mainland. Maybe I'll look at Prok. Wonder if he'll let me build a jungle :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always liked the idea of mainland&#8230; it seems so much more secure in a curious way. But when I bought (no, rented - you are quite right in your description of it being sub-let) land I couldn&#8217;t afford mainland and the idea of more &#8216;controlled&#8217; neighbours seemed appealing. </p>
<p>My landlord, one Doeko Cassidy, is a lovely chap and I&#8217;m not sure I would have been able to terraform my wee island quite so harshly as I have with another. Not every landlord answers a &#8216;help, this XYZ thing is not working on my land&#8217; call from a renter and beam in only to find the lovely little desert island he left suddenly transformed into a steamy jungle complete with shipwreck, tropical storm and varied wandering critters without saying a word. </p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;ll look into mainland. Maybe I&#8217;ll look at Prok. Wonder if he&#8217;ll let me build a jungle :-D</p>
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