Comments on: The Conclusion of Voices? http://ordinalmalaprop.com/engine/2007/10/20/the-conclusion-of-voices/ The experiences in Second Life of Ordinal Malaprop. Scripting, design, observations, notes. Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:47:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Diamanda Gustafson http://ordinalmalaprop.com/engine/2007/10/20/the-conclusion-of-voices/#comment-69098 Diamanda Gustafson Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:29:49 +0000 http://ordinalmalaprop.com/engine/2007/10/20/the-conclusion-of-voices/#comment-69098 <i>Use it when needed, ignore it otherwise. It works for me.</i> Spot on. I have found myself in favour of using voice when my hands are otherwise employed - building, walking, riding or sparring. Not to mention that it allows me to obnoxiously sing or growl to my friends! Use it when needed, ignore it otherwise. It works for me.
Spot on. I have found myself in favour of using voice when my hands are otherwise employed - building, walking, riding or sparring.

Not to mention that it allows me to obnoxiously sing or growl to my friends!

]]> By: Brokken Prevost http://ordinalmalaprop.com/engine/2007/10/20/the-conclusion-of-voices/#comment-65699 Brokken Prevost Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:44:44 +0000 http://ordinalmalaprop.com/engine/2007/10/20/the-conclusion-of-voices/#comment-65699 I initially determined not to use voice, but I have mellowed in my old age, and do use it when it's convenient. For example, last evening my business partner and I were working on some textures, and she was trying to teach me about some features of my graphics program. After struggling to talk back and forth using text (switching from SL to the graphics program and back a dozen times), we agreed to turn on voice. From then on, things went much more smoothly and quickly. We could have just as easily used Google Talk, but SL's voice service was behaving itself, so we used it. Use it when needed, ignore it otherwise. It works for me. Oh, and I don't think we can get kerfuffle in Kansas. Maybe in a specialty shop, but it would be canned, not fresh. I initially determined not to use voice, but I have mellowed in my old age, and do use it when it’s convenient. For example, last evening my business partner and I were working on some textures, and she was trying to teach me about some features of my graphics program. After struggling to talk back and forth using text (switching from SL to the graphics program and back a dozen times), we agreed to turn on voice. From then on, things went much more smoothly and quickly. We could have just as easily used Google Talk, but SL’s voice service was behaving itself, so we used it. Use it when needed, ignore it otherwise. It works for me.

Oh, and I don’t think we can get kerfuffle in Kansas. Maybe in a specialty shop, but it would be canned, not fresh.

]]> By: Sin Trenton http://ordinalmalaprop.com/engine/2007/10/20/the-conclusion-of-voices/#comment-65056 Sin Trenton Sun, 21 Oct 2007 11:29:28 +0000 http://ordinalmalaprop.com/engine/2007/10/20/the-conclusion-of-voices/#comment-65056 I've actually only met one person that displayed any kind of surprise that we were not using voice when I got together with a couple of friends. (She's the girlfriend of a group member). Having read several discussions and reflections about voice, and this being the first time I actually encountered someone to my knowledge using it, I took the opportunity to ask her a couple of questions. A RL professional habit, I suspect. She is not all that comfortable with using a keyboard, since she only uses computers for mailing, occasional chat and domestic administration, such as banking, etc. So speaking is easier for her, since she is not really a "technical person", as she sees it. (She is using her RL spouse's PC). Her main pursuit inworld is shopping with her girlfriends. This means that they are moving in small groups, talking as they shop. Walking and typing is hard to do at the same time, so voice is easier, for them. They do tend to use text on the few occasions they attend events, since it seems voice does not work in larger crowds. I also suspect that apart from the event itself and music going on, the number of avatars in a region, after a certain number, gets things potentially laggier, as well as noisier. Then again, that makes it quite similar to your ordinary RL rock club, where 60% of the conversation consists of screaming 'What!?' in each others ears anyway. Other than that, I have only encountered a voice conversation once, what I am aware of. Maybe it's because I am mainly moving between the Victorian regions or seldom go shopping with my boyfriends. I'm more wondering about any IDV kerfuffle myself, to be honest. Even if that one would arrive with mintsauce. I’ve actually only met one person that displayed any kind of surprise that we were not using voice when I got together with a couple of friends. (She’s the girlfriend of a group member).

Having read several discussions and reflections about voice, and this being the first time I actually encountered someone to my knowledge using it, I took the opportunity to ask her a couple of questions. A RL professional habit, I suspect.

She is not all that comfortable with using a keyboard, since she only uses computers for mailing, occasional chat and domestic administration, such as banking, etc. So speaking is easier for her, since she is not really a “technical person”, as she sees it. (She is using her RL spouse’s PC).

Her main pursuit inworld is shopping with her girlfriends. This means that they are moving in small groups, talking as they shop. Walking and typing is hard to do at the same time, so voice is easier, for them.
They do tend to use text on the few occasions they attend events, since it seems voice does not work in larger crowds. I also suspect that apart from the event itself and music going on, the number of avatars in a region, after a certain number, gets things potentially laggier, as well as noisier.

Then again, that makes it quite similar to your ordinary RL rock club, where 60% of the conversation consists of screaming ‘What!?’ in each others ears anyway.

Other than that, I have only encountered a voice conversation once, what I am aware of.
Maybe it’s because I am mainly moving between the Victorian regions or seldom go shopping with my boyfriends.
I’m more wondering about any IDV kerfuffle myself, to be honest. Even if that one would arrive with mintsauce.

]]> By: Young Geoffrion http://ordinalmalaprop.com/engine/2007/10/20/the-conclusion-of-voices/#comment-64891 Young Geoffrion Sun, 21 Oct 2007 03:22:39 +0000 http://ordinalmalaprop.com/engine/2007/10/20/the-conclusion-of-voices/#comment-64891 The Show Must Go On has a delightful sketch by the text only comedy team of Polonsky & Keen in which an avatar reveals she does not use voice because she is a toaster oven. Not all who live here exist in any meaningful sense in the World Beyond, and those who do have not always found their own voice nor appreciate those who have found theirs. But no one has ever asked me why I will not use voice, so I haven't had a chance to tell them I donated my larynx to science, and the rest of my mortal coil, centuries ago. And I like it with mint. Immersionist Kerfluffle, drowned in fish sauce and mint. The Show Must Go On has a delightful sketch by the text only comedy team of Polonsky & Keen in which an avatar reveals she does not use voice because she is a toaster oven. Not all who live here exist in any meaningful sense in the World Beyond, and those who do have not always found their own voice nor appreciate those who have found theirs.

But no one has ever asked me why I will not use voice, so I haven’t had a chance to tell them I donated my larynx to science, and the rest of my mortal coil, centuries ago.

And I like it with mint. Immersionist Kerfluffle, drowned in fish sauce and mint.

]]> By: Zoe Connolly http://ordinalmalaprop.com/engine/2007/10/20/the-conclusion-of-voices/#comment-64889 Zoe Connolly Sun, 21 Oct 2007 03:17:20 +0000 http://ordinalmalaprop.com/engine/2007/10/20/the-conclusion-of-voices/#comment-64889 Voice was a great concern of mine as I am 80 percent hearing impaired and I was worried about shouting "what?" several times inworld. Although I've read that many are saying that in their converstions anyway as the technology is not infallible. My concerns have greatly diminished over the last few months, and I have not faced discrimination in any degree. Voice was a great concern of mine as I am 80 percent hearing impaired and I was worried about shouting “what?” several times inworld. Although I’ve read that many are saying that in their converstions anyway as the technology is not infallible.

My concerns have greatly diminished over the last few months, and I have not faced discrimination in any degree.

]]> By: Tateru Nino http://ordinalmalaprop.com/engine/2007/10/20/the-conclusion-of-voices/#comment-64881 Tateru Nino Sun, 21 Oct 2007 03:04:18 +0000 http://ordinalmalaprop.com/engine/2007/10/20/the-conclusion-of-voices/#comment-64881 I've had to opt out of a number of events. Some town halls, the Metaversed/DDJ events and so forth. I occasionally turn up - because if voice is working sufficiently poorly (and sometimes it is) then the session defaults to text and I can participate. Outside of events, it's not had a ton of impact, other than having a few conversations go 'over my head' (as it were). It just doesn't seem to made much headway against text as the primary means of communication. That may change, but it hasn't yet. Voice seems to have relatively little traction. People might have it _on_, but that doesn't mean that it's actively being used. I’ve had to opt out of a number of events. Some town halls, the Metaversed/DDJ events and so forth. I occasionally turn up - because if voice is working sufficiently poorly (and sometimes it is) then the session defaults to text and I can participate.

Outside of events, it’s not had a ton of impact, other than having a few conversations go ‘over my head’ (as it were). It just doesn’t seem to made much headway against text as the primary means of communication. That may change, but it hasn’t yet. Voice seems to have relatively little traction. People might have it _on_, but that doesn’t mean that it’s actively being used.

]]> By: Dominic Webb http://ordinalmalaprop.com/engine/2007/10/20/the-conclusion-of-voices/#comment-64838 Dominic Webb Sun, 21 Oct 2007 00:51:02 +0000 http://ordinalmalaprop.com/engine/2007/10/20/the-conclusion-of-voices/#comment-64838 I love kerfluffle. Especially with fish sauce. :) I love kerfluffle. Especially with fish sauce. :)

]]> By: Jaymin Carthage http://ordinalmalaprop.com/engine/2007/10/20/the-conclusion-of-voices/#comment-64801 Jaymin Carthage Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:05:47 +0000 http://ordinalmalaprop.com/engine/2007/10/20/the-conclusion-of-voices/#comment-64801 Yes, mi'lady, I think you nailed it. It's what most of the non-alarmists were saying all the time. It's a useful feature for those who want to use it, and a non-intrusive one for those who don't. But if there wasn't something to start a kerfuffle about what would people do? Yes, mi’lady, I think you nailed it. It’s what most of the non-alarmists were saying all the time. It’s a useful feature for those who want to use it, and a non-intrusive one for those who don’t.
But if there wasn’t something to start a kerfuffle about what would people do?

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