I am indebted to a Concerned Reader, who has left a comment on a previous post regarding an automated method of searching for and purchasing land requested via the libsecondlife project Consultancy page.
land troller
• A method for using libSL for trolling Land sales. (first land and others) *** — $300
• You have a coder, but I need some more details that you can either post here or e-mail to ###. Do you want an automated method of purchasing land in SL, or do you want a system that alerts you when it finds land that meets certain criteria?
• What you want a spec?? haha …. first req would be a system that alerts when land available meets certain criteria…..if it could then automate certain purchases that would be great too. To be clear…I do not intend to use ALT avatars to cheat on first land. I currently do not own land, but am always getting beaten out by land scammers…..so I would also like to beat them at their own game and offer a FAIR price to n00bs after explain the reality of the land system.
• I will complete the first requirement and we can talk from there
Well, it is all very well saying that one has only the best of intentions, but a few matters do arise:
1. I tend not to be in the habit of believing random folk on the Aethernet merely because they say they may be trusted, personally speaking, no offence meant to Mr or Ms ***;
2. Once the tool is out there who can say who will then use it?
3. Nothing is said of not using it for conventional land sales, including everybody’s favourite activity, land swooping.
Heaven knows that I am not one to stand in the way of progress, and I have a decidedly neutral attitude to the notorious libsecondlife project. Automated land purchasement is however something that fills me with dread. We have enough of an issue with ridiculous prices arising for Mainland plots at the present time, aided as far as I am aware only by humanly assiduous greed. Inhumanly assiduous greed, well. Even in the Other World, there have had to be automatic systems created to counter the possible effects of automated stock trading and prevent immensely rapid rises and falls.
There is always some talk in these instances of respecting “the laws of the market”. This always brings to mind someone falling off a cliff being told not open a parachute lest it disrespect the law of gravity. It may indeed be the case that some sort of “market level” is reached, but there is no reason that that will at all be the best level for society, and in fact there is no guarantee that a stable level will ever be reached; a constant cycle of boom and bust is perfectly consistent both with theory and practice. This sort of thing is all very well for speculators, but even on the Grid land does actually have meaning to actual people outside of its value to land dealers. Even if it is not absolutely required for existence, it can be argued that it is necessary for a certain quality of existence; not only for builders but also for anyone who simply wishes an area in which to relax with a scripted brandy, tell tall tales to one’s friends and potential conquests and perhaps even compose a romantic Ode over Instantaneous Message.
Enough of my Socialist ramblings I suppose; that is an initial reaction, but I would wish to raise the tone of this Journal somewhat by penning a more detailed piece on what automated land trading may mean for the Grid, which I aim to do forthwith. Being subject to a Virus in the Other World - yes, they exist even there, though the term is of course a metaphor, I am not really suffering from the effects of self-replicating Engine instructions - I expect that I will have some spare time for this undertaking.
Oh, I must just add one observation - this is absolutely and precisely not the sort of thing that the libsecondlife project should be engaging in if they have any concern as to public perception of their endeavours. I have spoken at length about the fact that CopyBot now epitomises their output, and from those that I have spoken to, I believe that this is accepted as a situation that was Not Necessarily Handled As Well As It Could Have Been. libsecondlife as the originator of both CopyBot and LandSwoopBot… well, if anything is going to have the inventors’ castle burned to the ground, it would be that, and one can argue until one is blue in the face that such things would have happened anyway and nothing is safe on the Aethernet blah blah blah but it won’t make a bit of difference if you are identified as the group who did it first.
In entirely unrelated news I am currently being bombarded with Erroneous Instantaneous Messages informing me of things I have no interest in, mostly that objects cannot be created in regions in which I am not attempting to create objects and care not one whit about, and thus I am very unlikely to receive any Offline IM sent, as such things are capped at a certain level. Please, if you wish to communicate, write in a notecard and send that to me.


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January 5, 2007 at 2:52 am
Jesse Malthus
The difference in this program and CopyBot is that it is a consultancy project, not a bounty, as bounties become part of the project and work done for a person becomes their project, hence it is up to the code’s owner to control its distribution.
That being said, I don’t believe that it’s a particularly good idea for libsecondlife members to get involved with this project, as tantalizing as the money is. Also, we’ve had a land-purchasing function in the library for some time now (however, I believe all land sales are now routed over HTTPS, hence the function may not work as is), just no automated way to query the land search tool.
January 5, 2007 at 12:29 pm
Ordinal Malaprop
Ah, thank you for clarifying that. On the other hand, if the program is then put up for open sale, it would still be distributed and huge numbers of land dealers would purchase one. (In fact, it might even be better, if it is allowed to exist at all, if it _were_ out there for free, given that that would then allow individuals wishing to find land to buy for themselves rather than speculation to have the same powers as professionals without having to pay hundreds of dollars for the privilege.)
January 5, 2007 at 12:35 pm
Ordinal Malaprop
Actually, something else occurs to me now; the request was undated, so this could have been made some time ago and already be in existence, if the person taking the contract did not choose to put any land searching tools that they developed back into libsecondlife. (Which would not be exactly inconsistent with the current wild state of the land market.)
Or of course it might still be in some stage of development. It would surprise me if it did not appear relatively soon though.
January 6, 2007 at 1:09 am
Jesse Malthus
You can look at the history in the wiki to determine the date (it was originally filed under the Bounties, but we decided to separate them from anything that might not accept a BSD license)
A link to the history section of the page, just after the request was added: http://www.libsecondlife.org/protocol/index.php?title=Bounties&diff=2600&oldid=2585
I do agree with you that proliferation of a “land-swoop” tool would be a good thing if it was being sold, it would even out the market.