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	<title>Comments on: In which Ordinal expresses Frustrations regarding Modes of Transport, and hopes for a Bright Future</title>
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		<title>By: Ordinal Malaprop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ordinal Malaprop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The fact that newer telehub areas have not had the time to be surrounded with crap does not mean that they won't be - or wouldn't be - and it doesn't mean anything for the vast numbers of existing traps, which for some reason I seem to keep running into. Perhaps I'm cursed. The only areas that are consistently free of them seem to be specifically  or necessarily non-commercial ones: combat zones, sandboxes, dedicated land, the coast etc.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It's no easier to find a telehub to start from than it is to find a P2P destination to start from. Nobody thinks of a telehub as a destination. They think of buildings, areas, attractions. Then they use telehubs to get to them. If newbies are so keen on using telehub areas they'll be able to do &lt;em&gt;precisely&lt;/em&gt; the same thing with P2P in any case - the areas aren't going to suddenly vanish.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And I'm sorry, but the idea that telehubs "facilitate equal access to the market" just does not make sense. They absolutely do not. They make it less convenient for consumers to visit suppliers the further away they are from the telehub. Being close to a telehub requires a large capital investment, restricting small businesses and entrepeneurship. That is not equal access. I would have thought a good free-marketeer would have championed them, but scratch a business success and you find a monopolist perhaps....&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;P.S. It's freedom I hate, not capitalism.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that newer telehub areas have not had the time to be surrounded with crap does not mean that they won&#8217;t be - or wouldn&#8217;t be - and it doesn&#8217;t mean anything for the vast numbers of existing traps, which for some reason I seem to keep running into. Perhaps I&#8217;m cursed. The only areas that are consistently free of them seem to be specifically  or necessarily non-commercial ones: combat zones, sandboxes, dedicated land, the coast etc.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s no easier to find a telehub to start from than it is to find a P2P destination to start from. Nobody thinks of a telehub as a destination. They think of buildings, areas, attractions. Then they use telehubs to get to them. If newbies are so keen on using telehub areas they&#8217;ll be able to do <em>precisely</em> the same thing with P2P in any case - the areas aren&#8217;t going to suddenly vanish.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m sorry, but the idea that telehubs &#8220;facilitate equal access to the market&#8221; just does not make sense. They absolutely do not. They make it less convenient for consumers to visit suppliers the further away they are from the telehub. Being close to a telehub requires a large capital investment, restricting small businesses and entrepeneurship. That is not equal access. I would have thought a good free-marketeer would have championed them, but scratch a business success and you find a monopolist perhaps&#8230;.</p>
<p>P.S. It&#8217;s freedom I hate, not capitalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Your notion of telehubs is very skewed because you've had the experience of being in an avatar trap in a laggy, slow-rezzing sim a few times and decided that's the norm. It isn't. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;o None of the telehubs in the new and newest continents up north have telehubs like this. None. They either have NO buildings around them or just a Linden building. For 2560 m2 or more, there is clear space, often with trees. Those building in the area are forced to put off their possible traps quite a distance and you can easily skirt them.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;o Most of the telehubs in the south and southeast, i.e. built in the last year, also have plenty of space next to them, and many are nothing like what you describe.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;o Newbies constantly use telehubs. Despite whatever Babbage Linden thinks is hard for newbies, all you have to do is watch them to see hundreds using them. How can they know where to teleport to in a p2p system? They have to start somewhere.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Could your hatred of telehubs be linked to your hatred of capitalism? For you, the open market is the problem, not this transportation system. Telehubs facilitate equal access to the market -- and a free market. God bless 'em. SL will be a little totalitarian incubator when they are gone.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your notion of telehubs is very skewed because you&#8217;ve had the experience of being in an avatar trap in a laggy, slow-rezzing sim a few times and decided that&#8217;s the norm. It isn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>o None of the telehubs in the new and newest continents up north have telehubs like this. None. They either have NO buildings around them or just a Linden building. For 2560 m2 or more, there is clear space, often with trees. Those building in the area are forced to put off their possible traps quite a distance and you can easily skirt them.</p>
<p>o Most of the telehubs in the south and southeast, i.e. built in the last year, also have plenty of space next to them, and many are nothing like what you describe.</p>
<p>o Newbies constantly use telehubs. Despite whatever Babbage Linden thinks is hard for newbies, all you have to do is watch them to see hundreds using them. How can they know where to teleport to in a p2p system? They have to start somewhere.</p>
<p>Could your hatred of telehubs be linked to your hatred of capitalism? For you, the open market is the problem, not this transportation system. Telehubs facilitate equal access to the market &#8212; and a free market. God bless &#8216;em. SL will be a little totalitarian incubator when they are gone.</p>
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